The Green Pill Podcast.
Honest conversations about non-toxic fire defense, protecting wildlife, and saving historical landmarks from wildfire — with the people doing the work.
The Green Pill Podcast is hosted by Steve Conboy, our founder and an award-winning fire-elimination technologist, and Hank Wright, a wildfire survivor and longtime advocate for non-toxic fire defense.
Each episode pulls in builders, fire chiefs, code officials, policy advocates, and homeowners who've been through it. We talk about what works, what's been tried, and what the insurance crisis is really about. We answer listener questions, and we'll come to your community for a live episode if it helps.
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The latest conversations.
Why insurance won't pay for the home that won't burn.
How the California Fair Plan misses fire-resilient construction — and what could change.
What the EPA Safer Choice mark actually means.
Steve walks through the certification process and why no other fire retardant has ever earned it.
Hank's story: a wildfire survivor turned advocate.
Hank Wright on what he learned the hard way about toxic retardants — and why he came out the other side fighting for non-toxic chemistry.
Meet the hosts
Steve Conboy
Inventor of the only EPA Safer Choice–certified fire retardant. Two decades developing fire-elimination chemistry.
Hank Wright
Survived a major California wildfire and now advocates for non-toxic fire defense — the kind of chemistry he wishes had been on the line when his community was at risk.
Suggest a guest
Have a builder, fire chief, code official, or homeowner with a story we should tell? Email steve@saferchemistry.org with a quick summary.